Barack Obama Hillary Clinton

When we look at Iraq and Afghanistan in the context of “why we went over there” as compared to now, we see that they are complete failures.  No weapons of mass destruction.  No legitamate government to take its place.  Osama bin Laden has never been found.  And if he is dead, the government doesn’t want that information to leak out.

We know now that the Gulf of Tonkin incident never existed.  And yet, this event in 1964 lead to a nine year conflict and 60,000 lives lost.  In 1965 President Johnson would say privately:  “For all I know, our Navy was shooting at whales out there.”

We know that September 11, 2001 happened, we saw it with our own eyes.  And while many Amer’cans, like myself, have questions surrounding that day, that is a discussion best left for another time.

But why attack Afghanistan when fifteen of the nineteen hijackers came from Saudi Arabia?  A Saudi Arabia that we still sell arms to.  I read in the paper today that from 2005 to 2009 that the Department of Defense had not kept proper track – if they ever did – of the weapons they sold in the Middle East.

Does this come as a surprise?  Draw your own conclusions.  Here are a couple of snippets of a Huffington Post article about the divides in the Obama administration’s foreign policy.  We are never leaving, at least not on our own accord.  I found this on Campaign for Liberty, but added my own thoughts.

During a dinner hosted by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for Afghan President Hamid Karzai in May, Gates reminded the group that he still feels guilty for his role in the first President Bush’s decision to pull out of Afghanistan after the Soviet withdrawal in 1989, according to Bob Woodward’s new book, “Obama’s Wars.” And to express his commitment to not letting down the country again, he emphasized:

We’re not leaving Afghanistan prematurely,” Gates finally said. “In fact, we’re not ever leaving at all.”

“You have to recognize that I don’t think you win this war. I think you keep fighting. You have to stay after it. This is the kind of fight we’re in for the rest of our lives and probably our kids’ lives.”

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