F.B.I.: Domestic militias just as much a threat to national security as al-Qaeda

A person close to me said that the American people will rise up against the governmet.  I’m thinking thats not going to happen, and for several reasons.  People have families, they have lives, and the government has it’s hands in every aspect of American life.  We live in a debtor nation of tyranny.

Granted the government is not shooting us on the streets, but think of it this way, when you find yourself living in fear that the government is going to fine you, imprison you, or something else for something as petty as Obamacare, the census, or even down to the plates on your car, that’s tyranny.

Here’s another sign of freedom on life support for you: John McCain and Joe Lieberman are co-sponsoring a bill that would give the government power to indefinately detain Americans – S. 3081.

So what would happen if the American people revolted in mass amounts?  The president would sign a whole crap load of executive orders, martial law would be declared, and the infamous FEMA camps that you have heard about will be activated.

Absent some miracle that Congress gets terms limits, the Federal Reserve is abolished, and the government is open for a thorough investigation, the chance of the American people coming together in a cohesive fashion to have a second revolution is largely impossible.

Fifteen years after the Oklahoma City bombing, the spectre of domestic terrorism has returned to haunt the Obama Administration, with a warning from the FBI that “home-grown and lone-wolf extremists” now represent as serious a threat as al-Qaeda and its affiliates.

The warning, from the FBI Director, Robert Mueller, came as the former President Clinton drew parallels between the Oklahoma City tragedy and a recent upsurge in anti-government rhetoric, while American television audiences heard Timothy McVeigh, the Oklahoma City bomber, describe the “absolute rage” that drove him to plan an attack that killed 168 men, women and children.

An FBI spokesman told The Times yesterday that Mr Mueller was referring to right-wing extremist groups and anti-government militias, as well as American Islamists, in his testimony to the Senate committee that must approve the FBI’s $8.3 billion (£5.4 billion) budget.

Last month federal agents arrested nine members of a Christian militia based in Michigan, calling itself the Hutaree. They have been charged with plotting to murder local police with a stash of guns, knives and grenades.

Since the passage of President Obama’s health reforms, the FBI has also made arrests in Seattle and San Francisco after death threats were sent to Democratic senators.

“It’s one thing to express dissatisfaction with the Government but once you cross the line with a violent threat, that’s a violation that we take extremely seriously,” Bill Carter, the bureau’s spokesman, said.

The Oklahoma bombing was followed by an exhaustive civilian trial in which McVeigh became a hate figure to most but a hero to some members of the survivalist fringe on which he was radicalised.

He was executed in 2001, but not before granting 45 hours of death-row interviews to the authors of a book, American Terrorist, whose tapes will be broadcast for the first time on Monday. McVeigh never confessed to the bombing in court but he appears to do so on the tapes.

“I feel no shame for it,” he says. “This was something that I saw as a larger good, and I know that, as I analysed the history of not just the US, but all nations throughout the history of mankind. People have killed for what they believed was the greater good, and it’s accepted. Sometimes killing is accepted.”

The White House was careful to emphasise that the threat of external terrorism remained acute but senior officials are privately confident that military operations in Afghanistan are going well and putting al-Qaeda on the back foot. Few people in Washington are as confident about the domestic threat.


3 thoughts on “F.B.I.: Domestic militias just as much a threat to national security as al-Qaeda

  1. Nate

    In my nearly 40 years of life, having lived in eight states and 20 towns, I have not once, never, heard anyone actually propose the armed overthrow of our government. Even the most crackpot, conspiracy theory, bunker-digging, gun nut of guys I have met haven’t talked about it. And yet, every time I turn on the TV, some talking head is screaming about how there is a huge group of people who are prepared and training for the armed revolution against the guv’mint. Where are these people? Who are these people? Do these people actual exist or are they just mythical boogeymen created to sell books and get people re-elected? Is this a media-created problem? Just once I’d like to meet and talk to someone who actually wants to overthrow our democratically elected government, or someone who actually thinks that we are headed towards a second civil war. If they really exist, and I’m inclined to think they don’t, they need to step back and look at the big picture.

    On another note, I find it interesting that several of the “radical anti-government militiamen” arrested recently in Michigan were, in fact, living off government assistance (unemployment, welfare, food stamps, disability…). Don’t bite the hand that feeds you, hypocrites.

  2. I recently saw a report that said four out of every five Americans distrust the federal government, and one out of every three believe that the government is a major threat to their rights and civil liberties.

    This is more of a phsycokogical op than anything. Glenn Beck has equated Ron Pual and his supporters to domestic terrorist. The MIAC report has instructed police officers to be on the lookout for those with bumper stickers as they might be militia members. and these are the people who are for the Constitution.

    I like when Penne Jilette said that dissention is part of being an American.

    1. Nate

      Ok, I can agree with that assumption, but “distrust” and “dissention” are lightyears away from “rebellion” and “overthrow”. My point was that, like a lot of hot-button topics, the whole Second Civil War/armed overthrow of Obama stupidity is just a way to sell books and get people to watch your news show. I bet if you were to ask those one out of three Americans who believe the guv’mint is corrupt if they are willing to take a gun right now and march on Washington, you would not get a single person to say yes. And not because they are scared of getting shot, but because people generally understand how good we have it as American citizens. Seriously, in what other nation can citizens publically bitch and complain about a government that provides them with their standard of living and everything that they supposedly hold dear? This leads back to my firm statement that 99.9999999999999999999% of all “anti-government” types are total flaming hypocrites. But that’s a story for another time…

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